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Dear FRONTLINE,
Looking back to a past tragedy and trying to learn lessons from it,
often times generate no condolence but pain. Nonetheless, it is
time, after seven years of the Tiananmen Massacre, for Chinese
students, intellectuals, and civilians to face squarely an
unavoidable question: how could we have done better to help avoid
the tragedy and its severity? If we are to engage in this
intellectual journey, the TV program, The Gate of Heavenly Peace
(GHP), may offer some help.
Among other new insights, the GHP amply documents the
naiveté of a prevailing idea during the conflict. During the
occupation of Tiananmen Square in 1989, some student leaders and
their followers alike believed a simplistic formula: Bloodshed
would awake people; the awakened people would rise up; and
democracy would somehow naturally result. But as the whole world
sadly witnessed, there were only severe bloodsheds and casualties
but no uprising whatsoever. At least 300 deaths and 8,000 injuries,
according to the Chinese government own report. The GHP presents
this fact metaphorically in a scene in which a cleaning worker was
scrubbing the blood stains on the stone pavements in the
subsequently tranquil Tiananmen Square after the crackdown. The
narrator calmly observes: "After all, people's uprising did not
happen." This might be a less miserable outcome though. In my
judgment, an uprising of the unorganized civilians would have
accomplished everything--nationwide chaos, for one--but
democracy.
The spectacles of revolutions in the world history can be
deceptive in that many do not see the behind-the-scene efforts of
mobilization. Fledgling activists often forget that Mao Zedong's
kingdom was not built overnight but for a long period of time with
organizing efforts such as mobilizing villagers and extending party
branches into all levels of the army and society. Nor do these
young activists pay much attention to Polish Walesa and his
colleagues' arduous work distributing leaflets and building up
underground connections long before any nationwide strikes or
spectacular arrests occurred.
It is besides the point to blame any particular individuals or
groups, because the simplistic formula, the theme of self-sacrifice
and awakening, is a time-honored legacy of the Chinese
intellectuals who are anxious for a dramatic social change.
Generations of intellectuals from Qu Yuan, the poet who drowned
himself in Mi-lou River in Chu Dynasty, had strived to awaken
emperors to deliver social good. From some point since Marxist
influence on China, intellectuals such as Chen Tianhua, who also
killed himself for his social cause at the beginning of this
century, turned to awaken the people instead of emperors in a hope
of social revolution. Both cases in the longer past and more recent
episode showed an enormous ignorance of the real mechanism of
social change. The wishful thinking overshadowed the logical
capacity. In the June of 1989, such a cultural legacy, among other
factors, helped the continuous occupation of the square win over
other alternatives. Once again, we witnessed blood flowed and the
state of affairs remained much the same.
In the conclusion of this brief comment, I note that this is an
issue of two sides. Morally, I admire the Tiananmen Square
occupants' braveness and their sense of responsibility for the
public good. Some may accuse the student leaders of pursuing
personal fame at the expense of other people's lives in the first
place because some of them were rescued from persecution and a
number of them even enjoyed a good life abroad in the aftermath of
the movements. I find such an accusation outrageous. The student
leaders had no way to anticipate their later biographical
development but face the same imminent life threat during the
conflict. Their naiveté, therefore, was honest, perhaps even
beautiful. Intellectually, on the other hand, I believe those who
persuaded students to withdraw from the square to avoid bloodsheds
were wiser. Why did wiser people fail to control the course, an
event worth thousands of innocent lives? One of the accomplishments
of the GHP is its direction of our attention to this last question,
although it itself fails to address.
Y.S.
Washington DC
Dear FRONTLINE,
This documentary is first class! So is the web site. It created
virtual democracy wall where the Chinese government have little
control. I know people inside China are reading this. S.Q.
Dear FRONTLINE,
It is unfortunate to see that Chai Ling, as commander in chief,
allowed the students to continue the protest when she could see the
upcoming bloodshed. A good leader is a good leader because of what
he/she accomplish for his/her people. Chai Ling was not a good
diplomat, not a good visionary, not a good strategist. All Chai
Ling had accomplished was to put her followers on a suicidal clash
with the government and a big setback on the reform movement in
China. Because of her action, the hard-liners have now ousted most
of the reformers of power. What she has done also was to put
whatever tens, hundreds or thousands of people to sacrifice for her
lust of power for those several days in 1989. In retrospect, I
wonder how people will judge Chai Ling in our history book.
E. Leung
eleung@fore.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
I think it's a miracle of our era that "The Gate..." can appear on
PBS and that the writings of these dissidents are available on the
internet. Free speech is a remarkable item. Having lived in Beijing
in 1993-94, I was hard-pressed to find any students willing to talk
about the events of June 4. In fact, they behaved as though they
had been deliberately muzzled. How many people were killed then, I
don't know. Were the students unabashedly disorganized, yes. Were
the soldiers too young to know what they were doing? Yes. All of
them seemed victims of something that might have been averted had
there been some semblance of mediation on either side.
Nevertheless, the film was astonishing in every way because of its
comprehensiveness and depth. I was interested in how the student
group was just a mirror image of their oppressors what with their
own internal hierarchies. Still, they did the best they could under
the tortuous history of the last Century. I am still grappling with
my feelings for and about China.
My regards to all my fellow Chinese and Americans who took the
same bold trip that I did. I'd be interested in your
thoughts.
Donna Moss
Moss@cloud9.net
Dear FRONTLINE,
When I was just in third grade, I saw the Tiananmen Square massacre
on TV, and I became truly scared and shocked. It was hard for me,
at that age, to understand what the whole thing was about and why
it was happening. However, the TV images of the Goddess of
Democracy, the wounded and killed students, and especially the man
standing in front of the column of tanks stuck with me. They
impacted me so much that a few months ago, around seven years after
the movement took place, I did a thesis on the 1989 massacre and
movement for my English class. I wouldn't consider myself an expert
on the 1989 movement, but in my research for my thesis, I read
several books, including one written by Hong Kong reporters in the
square at the time. I also saw a documentary on the massacre,
entitled "Moving the Mountain". (I did not see "Gate" until a few
months after I had turned in my thesis.) Although I missed the
beginning of "Gate", I found it to be very nicely put
together.
However, one thing bothered me about the documentary. It
bothered me that the documentary focused so much on the power
struggles within the student protesters, rather than the power
struggles in the Chinese Communist Party. It is certainly true that
there were power struggles and difficulties in getting along among
the students, but this was almost inevitable. The students, after
all, were only students. They didn't know anything about politics
or constructing an unprecedented movement. They were only young
students desperate and starving for a better life and a better
place. It is stupid to blame the student leaders for the deaths of
the perhaps thousands who died at Tiananmen, when the ones who
drove the tanks and pulled the triggers were Communist soldiers.
Yes, perhaps the student leaders could have conducted the movement
differently, to avoid such bloodshed. Yet for such an unprecedented
movement, they did not have an instruction manual, or any
experiences to learn from. Although the 1989 movement did not bring
Democracy to China, it did wake up the world to what was going on
in China, and was a strong first step on China's road to
Democracy.
Y.H.C.
Dear FRONTLINE,
The Gate of Heavenly Peace is one of the best and powerful movies I
have ever seen. I taped your program and invited my colleagues and
friends to watch this masterpiece. Everyone was deeply moved and
touched. Thousands of thanks to the producer of the movie and PBS.
I believe that millions of millions of Chinese will thank you for
the superb job. There is no doubt in our minds that it is one of
the most valuable contribution ever done to the progress of
democracy in modern China.
In addition, your Democracy Wall on Internet is wonderful. We
wonder if you have sent all the responses to PRC Embassy in US and
Chinese Government in Beijing? Show the program again. The world,
history, civilization and the people who appreciate democracy will
thank you again and again in many years to come. When are you going
to show this movie on PBS again?
Finally, please convey our wholehearted thanks to all the
sponsors of this program.
J.T.
Vancouver
Dear FRONTLINE,
I know the wall will fall in China for freedom can not be stopped
once it has started.
Russ Demond
Dear FRONTLINE,
A job well done. I very much applaud your excellent film of "The
Gate of Heavenly Peace". In a world of media bias and bombardment
without much substance. You bring some "free air" and truth. Thank
you. I believe all people who are decent, with conscience very much
welcome your effort. We just like to have truth.
Vincent Liu
vincent@cs.stanford.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thank you for the program. Please show it again, at least twice
more at different time slots.
I thought of the Kent State incident during the Vietnam days and
began to think about all the similarities and differences. Surely,
the future student protesters should review them carefully. As for
all the negative things written on this site's wall about Chai
Ling, I beg to disagree. Yes, she came across as a "B". However, I
am not sure that the program is true in presenting her side of the
arguments. All that I am sure is that she was a young leader in
uncharted grounds. Also, she has to lead a bunch of young students
who were used to be told what to do (as by professors). What is the
right way to lead those particular students?
J. Gong
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thank you for showing this documentary. I watched it with tears
streaming down my face. I had followed the Tiananmen events closely
seven years ago, emotions swinging from hope to frustration to
despair and ultimately, outrage and deep sadness. The students
certainly had their shortcomings but one should not forget that
they were after all young people with all their naiveté,
immaturity and even arrogance. But their courageous act and tragic
failure opened the eyes of many to the utter bankruptcy of the
Chinese communist government. As an overseas Chinese, I had grown
up believing that the communist party was the savior of China. Even
after the excesses of the Cultural Revolution were revealed, I
still wanted to believe that the Communist party was a
self-reforming party capable to admitting and correcting its
mistakes. Tiananmen shattered that illusion. That ruling clique is
plain and simply a bunch of fascists.
The prospects for democratic reform in China looks very bleak
right now, but I like to think that the spirit of Tiananmen will
live. And that one day, the truth will come out.
Meanwhile, I thank the film producers for making this film if
only to remember those who fell in Tiananmen and the few brave
souls who carry on the fight today. The world should never forget
the Wei Jingshengs and Wang Dans and the workers executed in
Shanghai seven years ago.
Finally, two suggestions about the film: One. Student protest
movements also took place in many provinces in China in June 1989.
This was never reported in the film. Two. It would have been
helpful if the fates of those interviewed in the film were
described at the end of the film.
Y.K.
Canada
Dear FRONTLINE,
Because it kept faith with all the subtle nuances, the complexities
of motivation, of perception and historical experience, of emotion
for all the people involved, this program was among the best I have
ever seen on TV and certainly the best ever on China. Long Bow's
earlier production for PBS was superb but this beats even that.
Each pundit or politico holding forth on China should have to view
this.
Jeanne Phillips
Dear FRONTLINE,
The Gate of Heavenly Peace is a superb work of documentary. I was
surprised that Chai Ling refused to be interviewed, and wrote such
a nasty note about the film. Her actions have diminished some of
her greatness in my mind, similar to the tarnishes in Mao's later
life on Mao's greatness. I have watched this film 6 times already,
and still find it very riveting, for it is not a Hollywood fiction,
but based on real-life events. There are so many heroes, and I
admire and salute them all. I have had the privilege of shaking
hands and greeting Wuer Kaixi in San Francisco soon after he
arrived in the U.S. to talk about the Tian-An-Men incident.
James Uy
muz@ix.netcom.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
The students at Tiananmen Square should both be lauded and
chastised. They showed some guts and provided a needed challenge to
the CCP, but also threw the concept of 'democracy' around like it
was something that could be purchased conveniently at a shopping
mall. Chai Ling was fairly repugnant - clinging to power as if on
some pathetic ego trip while not recognizing the hypocritical
paradox of screaming for democracy while doing so. The students
seemed scarcely more democratic than the CCP hierarchy they so
loathed. If workers groups, such as those led by Han Dongfang had
been incorporated into the protest, it could have become something
more than a significant footnote in the Deng era. "Democracy?" Only
for Beijing students? Come on.
"The Gate of Heavenly Peace" gave a context to not only the
events of April-June 1989, but also to much of China's 20th century
political background - The May Fourth Movement, Mao Zedong-thought,
Cultural Revolution, Deng's 'rehabilitation' within the CCP,
Democracy Wall, the 1976 Zhou Enlai Tiananmen incident, etc. Super
job - it replaces many superficial CNN and Dan Rather memories from
June, '89. i.e.: "Students = 'good', CCP = impatient, murderous
ogres. It makes you want to know more about the people who actually
were murdered on the streets leading to Tiananmen Square. There
lives need to be memorialized.
PS - If you're interested in CCP Chinese politics, two
books:
The Search for Modern China by Jonathan Spence and Chinese
Awakenings by Tyson, James and Ann.
K.M.
Dear FRONTLINE,
The site is very colorful but where is the analysis that is the
strength of the film? Is the film going to be distributed?
Mini Liu
Dear FRONTLINE,
I saw several things in the film: The sixties in America. Power
among groups and how to share or not share. Extremism in the
student leaders. Richard Daley at the Chicago convention in the
form of Communist leaders. Newt Gingrich and current Republicans
stifling dissent as best they can.
J.A.
Dear FRONTLINE,
I understand one theory regarding the move by the government to
attack the square is based on spiking national inflation. The
government needed to make a show of force, as the theory goes, to
quell additional insurrection. Inflation is a major fear of
dictatorships, particularly after economic circumstances improve
marginally in countries with low standards of living. Does anyone
have information on this theory regarding inflation?
Bob Llewellyn
rllewell@apsc.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
After seeing the show last night I was left with several mixed
feelings... 1) To the Chinese Gov't.: Those who ignore the rich
experience of their past will be doomed to failure in the future.
2) To the Chinese Gov't. - A dog will only act as he has been
trained to act. 3) to the Students: Ultimate power and change comes
from within the system.
tmavis@xlconnect.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
The unarmed young man standing in front of the tank for a good few
minutes has demonstrated the greatest courage of mankind
confronting with totalitarianism. Yet, how often can we hear his
name to be mentioned when we talk about the June 4th
Massacre?
Chan
Lakehurst, NJ
Dear FRONTLINE,
I think Chai Ling and some other student leaders are just spoiled
kids. One of the most important reasons why she was chosen as the
leader was that she was simply fearless, and this kind of braveness
was based on sort of illusion. Sometime she really doesn't
understand what she is talking about, and sometime she tells lies
not out of ill intend. Chai Ling is just a symbol of 89 Beijing
revolution with mixed characters. I hope people can leave her
alone, and also I hope Chai Ling just forget about politics,
because that is not for her.
Yidong Bai - Once moved , and then confused by Chai Ling.
Dear FRONTLINE,
I found many parallel in the Beijing incident to my own experience
as a student protester here in the U.S. The power trips, the chaos,
and the feeling of grandeur frighteningly mirrored the protest I
took part in at UCLA (90-94). Also the media distortions and the
military crackdown was familiar. The main difference was how
lenient the Chinese government was one the students. We would never
rush a police line cause we know in the U.S. that would lead to a
cracked skull or worse! I can't believe the protesters were able to
make the police feel guilty and back away! That would never happen
here. The even met with the leader of the country another fantasy
scenario here. I would like to talk to anyone who has
misconceptions about how free we are in the states.
Chris Tucker
ctucker@cati.csufresno.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
We must never forget in the sweep of current events those Patriots
of Freedom who gave their lives for a Free China. They are the
spiritual brothers and sisters of our own American Patriots who
gave all for freedom. It is too easy for us to be complacent and
take our freedom for granted. We should not forget that there are
people in the world who risk their lives for what we assume to be
our birthright. We should respect them.
D.F.
Dear FRONTLINE,
The power struggle among the student groups for leadership is a
realtime synthesis and of Chinese History. It revealed the
everlasting political problem of power struggles among
leaders.
K. Yung
Dear FRONTLINE,
I watched in wonder at the hundreds if not thousands of young and
old, literate and illiterate, common people and party members that
for all intents and purposes showed that underneath the china we
know today lives a greater and more courageous people then we could
ever have thought. It makes me mad and shake my head when I heard
from this supposed "commander in chief" of the student brigades
telling this reporter that in effect she wanted her fellow
protesters to die. to die for the greater good of china. I ask her
now that she has had so many years to think about this day if she
is still thinking that it was worth so many lives being lost? Sure
enough the communist party would have begun a roundup of the
central leaders of this event, but again from that interview that I
saw I can only say that she became a uncaring zealot. A zealot who
loses their ability to think in a protest movement of that size and
importance just added to the potential for bloodshed. She cried
alright at the blood bath that was June 4, 1989 and in a interview
said that it was time to overthrow the government of china I wonder
if now juxtaposing that taped message delivered from Hong Kong and
the interview done with the journalist a week before the events of
that bloody night she thinks so highly of herself now.
I don't want to put down the people who showed the courage and
greatness that is rare to see. the people of tiananmen will never
be forgotten for as long as the dissidents are free outside of
china they will be there to remind the world of what happened. the
thing that bothers me more than anything else is what happened to
so many of the rank and file of that protest, the ones who stood up
to the tanks, the ones who were not on the most wanted list of the
chinese government? my feeling is that many people were taken by
the police and the military and permanently silenced.
Of the twenty one who were so wanted to date it seems that at
least eleven have made it to safety in the west including the most
recent dissident chu hangong. The underground railway is still
alive and well its seems helping to spirit the outspoken out of
china. The day will come when a greater understanding of the events
of June 4, 1989 will come. Your program was the start. if many of
the leaders of the movement lost their souls like lu lin I wonder
why the military had not been provoked into killing so many people
sooner. The people of China are not murders by nature, and this
mass execution that the was conducted in no way should be thought
of as being the nature of the chinese people, just the people in
power.
I would conclude this commentary with the understanding of the
sacrifice of so many people; why they did it and if it might happen
again. Never I think the people of china will forget their little
social explosion. I must state that many of the leaders of the
student movement knew what was going on and worked hard to prevent
anything from happening. Unfortunately they did not succeed. The
politics of the events caught up with many of the people that day
and would not have listened anyway. Those that did as your
documentary said voted with their feet. the other leaders that were
there like lu lin wanted to see blood shed to try and "awake" the
people I wonder and sincerely wonder why they thought that having
people die would incite anything more than funerals. For it seems
to me that the students wanted "non-violence" not wanton killing.
The results of that interview were quite revealing.
D.H.
Dear FRONTLINE,
Please pass this message to Chai Ling or publish it in your
democracy wall. Hi, Chai Ling, Commander-in-chief: If you really
want to be a true leader of Chinese people, you should go back to
China to lead to people in the grass roots as Mao and Sun Yat-sen
did in the past and risk your own life together with the grassroot
Chinese people. Your behavior in Tian-An-Men reminds me as just
another hypocritical dictator driven by your lust for power. You
remind me of Jiangqing and I feel sick of you when you shouted that
you want democracy. I find your behavior is irresponsible and you
want those innocent young lives to die and shed blood while you
rise to power upon their innocent sacrifices.
Wu Ming
Dear FRONTLINE,
What has happened to the man who was given a 10 year prison
sentence for speaking his mind about the horror of tanks running
over innocent citizens. (Shown in the last 10 minutes of the film.)
I found this segment to be one of the most disturbing components of
the film.
Jeff Lariviere
jpl@sce.carleton.ca
Dear FRONTLINE,
One can see from the film that Chai Ling is the person that
eventually caused the crackdown in TienAnMan Square. Furthermore,
she is the person that originate the lies that a massacre has
occurred inside the square. And the anti-communist western press
are very willing to spread her lies throughout the world
repeatedly.
Tzeshan Chen
Dear FRONTLINE,
I'm a political science major at UCLA concentrating in
international relations, especially between Asia, Southeast Asia
and U.S. Coming from China's neighboring country Korea, I always
wanted to see and experience Tiananmen Square. My uncle who teaches
Chinese at a major Korean university, he's been there several times
and he has told me that I really should go visit this historic
place. I want to feel this place where so many students have lost
their lives to fight for China's democracy. I want to know how it
feels to fight for future of one's country. I'm glad I turned on my
T.V. out of boredom studying for my finals (yuk!) and it was one
tearful film to watch.
Because I missed the beginning part of it, I do not know whether
the lives of main characters(Chaing Lin? Was that her name? And
other people who participated in anti-Martial law movement in 1989)
is known or not. I would like to know what they are doing now and
where they are at. I also would like to know how their lives have
changed since the demonstration and how all this affected people of
China. Perhaps attitude of people from Taiwan and Hong Kong as
well.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Jayme Choi
jayoung@ucla.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
I really enjoyed your The Gates of Heaven episode. It should be
noted that the PLA that shot at the protesters were from outer
Mongolia and did not speak the same dialect as the people from the
city. They were insulated from the events at the square, because
the protesters could not communicate with the soldiers they could
not appeal to them. I am Chinese and the show really made me
appreciate the freedoms that I have in America. We Americans take
our freedoms and human rights for granted!
H.L.
Hampton, VA
Dear FRONTLINE,
A moving and compelling piece that expands our understanding of the
student movement in 1989 - a clarion call to all who would support,
live under, or participate in a participatory democracy.
Dr. Doug Forbes
df08@academia.swt.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
We watched the film last night on PBS in Boston. We were deeply
moved by the film. Both myself and my wife are originally from
China and we had followed the entire movement in 1989. I'd like to
say "Thousand Thanks" to the people who made this film and I wish
one day this film can be broadcasted in China. People will never
forget what the government did and democracy will come to
China.
Many thanks again.
Y.W.
Dear FRONTLINE,
After I saw the film("Gate") last night, I feel very sad.
(1). The communist chinese government is the most evil one in the
world. Maybe, even through the entire human history; (2). There are
a lot to blame the student leaders. Particularly, Chai Ling is the
first one to be blamed. She is selfish and disgusting. I am sick of
her!!! She is guilty and deserves punishment;
Finally, in overall, the film "Gate" is a good one.
Adam D. Liu
Dear FRONTLINE,
It is an excellent documentary film. I learned a great deal of the
modern Chinese history from the two-hour-long show. It was very
interesting to note that through out the film, none of the
so-called Western "Chinese experts" were interviewed for their
"opinions". Yet, the people who interviewed are the really Chinese
people who participated in the June 4th Democratic Movement.
MFC
WASHINGTON, DC
Dear FRONTLINE,
I commend you on a balanced and fair assessment of the whole
incident. This is a breath of fresh air from all those
pro-government or pro-Western media information we had been fed in
the past. Thank you for a job well done.
cpang@ultratech.net
Dear FRONTLINE,
I watched the program last night and was moved to check out the web
page today (I am rarely so moved). The program, I thought, was well
balanced in that it did not depict the students as saints.
Hindsight is 20/20; therefore, I hope future democratic -- or
people-defined struggles -- will learn from the student protest at
Tiananmen. My knowledge of China is limited, but this program has
inspired me to do more work in this area. The web page is
wonderfully helpful in this regard.
Rhonda Frederick
frederic@dept.english.upenn.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
The film exposes the real face of the so called "Serve the People"
Chinese Communist Party and refreshes memory of the historical
evidence. The Chinese Communist dictators still persist not to
unfold the truth of Tiananmen Square Massacre and punish the
murderers. People around the world will never forget what had
happened in Tiananmen Square on June 4,1989. We all remember the
heroes who were killed by the Chinese Communist dictators. The
heroes who are still there to fight for Democracy will eventually
prevail. They will get respect and support from people around the
world.
S.K.
Dear FRONTLINE,
An incredibly powerful film which showed so much of the turmoil and
humanity of those few short weeks. This web site added greatly to
my review of the film and updates on people etc. Thank you. This is
what TV should be all about.
Linda Ashfield
BLAshfield@msn.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
My wife and I were in Beijing during the Tiananmen massacre. I was
a student at Beijing University, and she taught English at the same
school. We fled the country on June 7, 1989, three days after the
killings. The leaving was so abrupt, and we left so many friends
behind ( many whom we've yet to hear from), and left so many things
up in the air that I've never had any sort of closure on the
experience.
Your film, far from opening old wounds did quite the contrary:
it gave me a perspective I never allowed myself to have. Sure, I
was reminded of events and the remembrance was very emotional.
However, when I left China I closed my heart to those emotions. All
I had were fleeting images, many of them compressed, that would
come gushing out when close friends asked me what happened. Thank
you for the chance to take another look at the events of seven
years ago. I found the film matched well the version of events I
had hidden deep within myself. I was touched.
Randall Damon
rpdamon@sprynet.com
Des Moines, Iowa
Dear FRONTLINE,
I saw The Gate of Heavenly Peace at the MOMA in New York last fall.
After the credits, walking out of the theater I noticed that many
of the Chinese people in the audience were commenting that the film
was the most accurate and perhaps the most thorough presentation
they had seen so far of the events. It was very moving for me
personally. Being part Chinese and having visited my ancestors in
China, the film motivated me strongly to pursue my own studies of
Chinese language and to keep in touch with the evolution of
China.
Jason Eng
jason.eng@jwt.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
I have never been so moved in my life. Regular network had failed
miserably as compare to this documentary. Is there any way I can
purchase this tape. As a Hong Kong borned person, I want my second
generation to see the true faces of the June 4th incident. Again.
Excellent job.
V.L.
Dear FRONTLINE,
I was very moved by watching the Tinaman Square on PBS on July 4,
even though I have about it before, but I have seen in detail like
that before. I am Tibetan and I have heard many times from Tibetan
that they are denied the basic human right, but we are not getting
the support which we would like to have from United State or United
Nation. I even feel sad that our brothers and sister in China are
going through same. American who have watched this program, will be
moved by this and I hope they support for suffering people in China
and Tibet. I Thank your TV Station and the staff for televising
this program. I thanks you again and hope your company will do the
same in near future.
P.D.
Minneapolis, MN
Dear FRONTLINE,
This film is the most impartial account of what happened in
Tienanman Square 6/4/1996 I have seen today. However, an important
character that is related to this event is totally missing. This
person is Fang Li-Jih, an astronomer now taking a refugee status in
US. I think the film removed him from the event for fearing to
produce a link of US involvement in the event.
Tzeshan Chen
Dear FRONTLINE,
This weeks piece on your show was absolutely brilliant. I found it
to be a very fair look at the situation that developed in the
square.
It was interesting to see a piece that was not preaching the
infinite goodness of democracy, and showed that the kind of freedom
we have in Canada and the U.S. comes at the price of compromise (a
learned ability).
A faithful viewer,
Marc Dupont
Dear FRONTLINE,
This film and the responses to it I've read here have given me
great food for thought. One element of the entire democracy
question in China that seems to be underplayed is the economic
motivation that seems to underlie so many of the actions of those
in charge, those who would overthrow them and the average citizen
caught in the middle. It should be remembered that for much of the
early part of this century that the people of China suffered
greatly from famine brought about by natural conditions and human
disregard. Communism, in its inherently imperfect form, brought
with it a stability that has enabled the most populous nation in
the history of the world to not just survive, but to prosper. It is
this economic stability that has provided the fertile ground of
revolution that is tentatively being tilled. Just as Russia broke
free from the double crush of economic and political starvation, so
too have the people of China been freed from one set of shackles.
For the common person, Czarist rule in Russia was far worse on the
level of basic human survival than most of the excesses of
Communist dictatorship. The same can be argued for the people of
China when it comes to Imperial vs. Communist rule. Change does not
come easily nor overnight and often what seems to be a turning
point is in truth only another small step.
The true seeds of political revolution are sown in the fields of
economic freedom. When Hong Kong reverts to direct Chinese rule,
then the true revolution will begin. The minds of the people are
slowly being stretched and they will never return to their previous
dimension. Just as America was born NOT of the desire to create a
"more perfect union", but of the desire to escape unjust taxation;
so too will the citizens of China and Russia and other places great
and small arise when they come to believe that their prosperity
lies with themselves. Even here, in the land of the free, the
concept of political freedom is more abstract than concrete. Money,
however, is a concept everyone can grasp. I applaud the effort and
the great courage shown by so many millions of average,
hard-working Chinese. It will be through their efforts, not the
efforts of the elite, or would be elite, that China will be free.
When those who live the lives that are never covered by the press,
or filmmakers, decide that they can do better for themselves than
those in charge, THEN change will come. And when it does I hope
they guard against letting the new bosses be like the old
ones.
Marc Dupont
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thank you for a balanced, fair and generally courageous piece of
reporting. The subject is an extremely complex one, but the piece
managed to present a largely honest and accurate interpretation of
the events. My only regret is that while the American public
watched the sensationalist and highly biased network reports as
they came out in 1989, very few had watched "Gate" when it aired
last week.
B.H. Kwa
Dear FRONTLINE,
You have missed out the most important information about those 1989
movement leaders -- their present situation. Not every one of them
is as fortunate as Chai Ling, who left China successfully. Like
Wang Dan, who was imprisoned and released, has been detained again
by the Chinese authority for over a year. He is not charged with
any crime, but is simply detained. There are many more not-so-
famous participants in the movement under detention, the most
recent one (I've heard of) being Wong Hay Jit (my own translation
of his name from Cantonese), who was brought away by Police on May
31, 1996. Such news are not heard in Western media, but are
headlines in Hong Kong. I'm not sure when did your interviews take
place, but it's reasonable to think that those who are still in
China did not tell the whole truth, under the pressure from the
government. Yes, they were all brave enough to stand against the
government in 1989, but they also have families.
Also, I sensed that your program is suggesting that no massacre
actually took place at Tiananmen Square, and the tanks didn't run
over people intentionally. Did you know that the gov't switched off
all lights at the Square just before dawn, June 4, 1989, for like
half an hour? Your program didn't mention that, and that's when the
massacre took place. I've seen live footage on Hong Kong news at
that time, showing the lights went out, and gunshots started. There
were also pictures showing crushed human bodies on newspaper (which
I still have a copy). I do believe my eyes.
And the soldiers did not use ordinary bullets. They used a kind
of bullet which has been banned worldwide after the Vietnam War --
one which sets off an explosion when it enters the human body.
Those who had been shot either died or lost their limbs.
I think your program is present facts, but not the whole truth.
You are being too kind on the Chinese government.
C. M. Chiu
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thank you to PBS for showing The Gate of Heavenly Peace. Tears
streamed down my face as I watched the film. I was brought back to
those fateful days in June seven years ago. Like many Chinese
people around the world, I followed the students' protest movement
closely, emotions swinging from hope to frustration to despair and
ultimately, outrage and profound sadness. As an overseas Chinese, I
grew up believing that the Communist Party was good for China. Even
when the excesses of the Cultural Revolution were revealed, I still
wanted to believe that the Party was a self-reforming party which
will admit and correct its mistakes. The tragedy at Tiananmen
opened my eyes and those of many erstwhile believers that this
Party is corrupt and evil and fascist. Certainly, the students had
shortcomings but one must remember that they were after all still
young people with all their naiveté, immaturity and even
arrogance. But they were also tremendously brave and fearless and
their sacrifices will be remembered.
The prospects for democratic reforms in China looks very bleak
today. But I like to believe that films like The Gate of Heavenly
Peace help to keep alive the memories of those who fell in
Tiananmen and elsewhere in China - notably the workers executed in
Shanghai - and to remember the courageous souls who are carrying on
the fight for democracy in China today. We must never forget the
Wei Jingshengs and Wang Dans and the many nameless heroes of China.
A few points about the film: First, it would have been helpful if
the whereabouts of the players were described at the end of the
film. Second, protest movements broke out practically all over
China and it is unfortunate that this fact was not mentioned in the
film.
Still, thank you for preserving the memories of Tiananmen.
Y.K.
Montreal, Canada
Dear FRONTLINE,
I want to remind you all not to forget that the citizens of Beijing
were true heroes and had shed most the blood in this epic drama,
while Chinese students in US were the mainly beneficiary of the
massacre. They had succeeded to lobby Congress to grant them the
visa for permanent residence for neither participating in the
movement nor being persecuted in any way by the Chinese government.
It is shame to see while their compatriots in Beijing were being
slaughter, the Chinese students in the US rushed to capitalize on
the blood shed by other.
S.M.
Dear FRONTLINE,
This is the most interesting documentary I have ever seen. I was
very moved by the film as well as impressed with the quality of the
footage and the editing. We rarely see images from China and this
documentary shed a new light on the events of '89.
Julie Fortier
julie@sva.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
I am from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I was very moved by the
documentary. I was also very moved by the courage of the students
as well as the Chinese people.
When this event occurred, I was at a young age and living in
Hong Kong. Back then, it meant nothing to me. This documentary has
made me re-examine the events and I have since realized how close
we were to seeing a democratic China.
There were many different variables at play, and if only one of
these changed for the better, perhaps we would be living in a very
different place. I think that the events can be considered a
successful failure. The goal of awakening the people was achieved,
but so many innocent lives were lost. As long as the idea still
lives, the dream of a new China will still be alive. Now it is the
turn of the next generation to fight for what these brave men and
women have started. The responsibility falls on us. We must move
together as one, or condemn ourselves and a billion others to the
same fate as those before us.
Anthony Chan
Dear FRONTLINE,
The film lingered in my mind as I remembered my fellows who died on
that evening eight years ago. As a Chinese, I would like to say
that they didn't die for nothing. Their lives or death gave birth
to democracy and freedom in China, though the birth is a rather
prolonged progress. I look forward to hope becoming true.
I appreciated the film very much. It is objective and of
in-depth, and highly professional. It even gives Mr. Deng Xiaoping
a balanced recount. Though he is considered by many as the man
behind the scene who ordered the gun-fire and he maybe actually
was, Mr. Deng should not be regarded as the culprit of the crime.
Actually, when thinking about who was guilty for the Massacre, even
we Chinese would feel puzzled. We can only know those students and
those who were killed are heroes.
I do think there are many things this film should touch on.
Firstly, there was a pro-Zhao Ziyang think-tank who plotted a lot
major incidents in later half of the Movement. People like Wan
Run-nan, former chief of Beijing-headquartered Stone Co. which is
China's leading private enterprise, did played a major role in the
whole thing. Student leaders were summoned to his office or
somewhere else to plan what-to-do-next. But this film told nothing
about this power behind the scene. Secondly, how Chinese people
think about June.4th Massacre today? Do they think democracy will
follow economic freedom which Mr. Deng advocated (Here you can know
why I remain "thankful" to Deng for his reform and opening of
China.)? Thirdly, how foreign influence worked on and among the
student leaders? I want to know what then-Ambassador of US in
Beijing and his wife did and how Western media's coverage of the
incident helped to fan up students' emotion.
As for the leading character of this incident, Ms. Chai Ling, I
despise her. I think it is fair that this film gives people a
clearer idea what a role she played and how she played seven years
ago. Ms. Chai was and maybe still is a opportunist with very lowly
personality. She thought her time came when the thing started. So
she leaped, screamed, proclaimed, plotted a wedding with another
student leader, requested an exclusive interview when she was
somehow told that PLA would shoot. At last she ran faster than
anybody else. If she can read my opinion here, I would like to tell
her: "Stop using June 4th to serve your personal purpose. You have
managed to be in America, OK that's enough. You will have to be
exile for your life because even a democracy China won't welcome
you, to pay for the losses of those young lives."
D.S.Z.
Dear FRONTLINE,
This is an extraordinarily interesting, well organized, and
informative web site, probably the best I've ever visited.
Judson Feder
Dear FRONTLINE,
After reading about the controversy over "Gate" in the Washington
Post, including the Chinese government's heavy-handed attempt to
suppress it, I was intrigued. However, living in Richmond, I
doubted whether I would get a chance to see it. I was therefore
delighted to see it picked up by Frontline. The film was easily one
of the best-made documentaries I've ever seen. The filmmakers
provided a great deal of historical information--including
wonderful archival footage!--to allow the typical Westerner to
place the events of 1989 in context. I was stunned to learn that
there was "not" a mass bloodbath in the square--certainly news
reports at the time gave that impression. In fact, the film was
maddeningly vague about how many people *were* killed. Of course,
even the official figure of 200 dead is still a "massacre" in
anyone's book.
At the end of the film I was left emotionally drained but hungry
for more information. This hunger was well sated by the outstanding
web site. Kudos to all involved with it--the site is the best I've
ever seen for getting a wide variety of information across.
With human rights still virtually non-existent in the
PRC--especially in occupied Tibet, where people are beaten and
jailed merely for displaying a photograph of the Dalai Lama--this
documentary could not have been more timely. For those of us who
want to help the people of China and Tibet gain some real freedom
from this type of totalitarian thuggery, we cannot get very far if
we rely on simple-minded caricatures. This film should be required
viewing for anyone who truly wishes to make a change in
China.
Regards,
Dale G. Leopold
dleopold@ipctech.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
I teach 7th grade social studies. We just finished watching this
film, and I was amazed at the stunned silence that filled the room
when the final credits started rolling. Most of my students were
genuinely moved by the story and events. The most interesting
comment however was not about the protesters, but about the
soldiers. One student thought it must have been very hard for the
soldiers to do what they thought was right -- firing on civilians
or going to jail (or worse) for disobeying orders. Another
interesting response was to the sea of children holding up their
red scarves and chanting their loyalty -- many of my students
likened it to Nazi Germany. I think this scene and the discomfort
it provoked made this film very personal and relevant to my
classes.
T.G.
goto999@aol.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
This film was very successful in presenting (for the first time)
the students who were the core of the 1989 uprising. The film
fleshed out the movement and made it real as opposed to than the
two dimensional characterizations that were seen on network
newscasts. Seeing these people, one quickly realizes that the
"democracy" that they sought was not a true democracy of majority
rule/minority rights, but rather it was a term for a new
totalitarianism with a new ruling class. We Americans are so
fortunate that our revolutionaries included the likes of Jefferson
and Franklin. They were altruistic geniuses who led a people from
the chaos of revolution into a truly democratic nation. Most
rebellions do not end so well. History is littered with the likes
of Castro, Mao, Khomeni, Lenin and so on who created severe,
tyrannical regimes to "protect the revolution" for the "interests
of the People". Had these students succeeded, I feel that they
would have done much the same thing.
I feel that the film failed, however, when it came to portraying
the horror of the massacre. If one were to view this film without
any background knowledge of the incident, that person could easily
come to the conclusion that a few dozen people were injured or
killed in Beijing that night. The film makes no mention at all of
Chinese attempts to cover up the death toll by destroying the
bodies of the dead. Were those stories true? If they were, then the
film has made a terrible omission. If they are not why wouldn't
they film mention that wild, untrue rumors were circulated in the
west? Either way it should have been included.
Roger Bauman
St. Paul
Dear FRONTLINE,
The Gate of Heavenly Peace is superb--and perhaps unprecedented as
an anatomy of a historic crisis anywhere in the world. Would that
our cultural institutions would make the commitment to give
comparable attention to other supercharged moments. Thank you for
doing this service to historical understanding.
Todd Gitlin
New York, NY
Dear FRONTLINE,
This was the most balanced documentary on 6-4 yet. The next
installment should have more info on the economic backdrop to the
student protests. The film never actually listed all of their
demands, and why workers joined them. There was a lot more to it
than worker political awareness!
Stephen Eigles
Dear FRONTLINE,
The film, in my opinion and many others, is the most objective and
believable account of the inspiringly tragic event. It is not at
all surprising that both the radical pro-democracy student leaders
in exile and the staunch Chinese government are afraid of the wide
release of the film.
The Chinese people are indebted to the people who made this
historical film. Thank you, PBS, for showing it.
Peter Cai
pzc1@psu.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
Your viewers should know that your story on Tiannenman Square did
not reveal all the facts. Robert Rodvik, a freelance writer in
British Columbia, Canada, has written an extensive piece on
Tiannenman Square. It should be read by all who want additional
information on the why's and who's of this most tragic world event.
All interested should contact me via my email address or by writing
to:
Tom Davis Books
P.O. Box 1107F
Aptos, CA 95001-1107
Thank you,
Jeff Davis
Aptos, CA
Dear FRONTLINE,
The Gate of Heavenly Peace is a magnificent film and I applaud you
for bringing it our attention. I found it striking that there were
only two genuine revolutionaries in the film - Mao and Chai Ling.
Both found the spilling of blood necessary for revolutionary
progress. Mao, as a necessary means to an end; Chai Ling, as a
repugnant irony of the peace protest.
Jordan Colby
Dear FRONTLINE,
A terrific documentary; I was one of the witnesses of Tiananmen
Square and fully supported and empathized with the students.
However, as an eyewitness, and one of the handful of journalists
actually in the square up till 2:00 AM June 4th, I was disturbed at
some of the exaggerations by the "western media in absentia" who
immediately reported a brutal massacre taking place within the
square. It is my observation that NO massacre took place in the
square; the major bloodshed occurred outside the square and at the
countless intersections throughout Beijing as citizens battled the
military. I did interview two students while in the square who were
shot in the square; one through the hand; the other through the
shoulder. I observed soldiers shooting indiscriminately into the
crowds and wounding and killing numerous chinese people. I think
the phrase "Tiananmen Square Massacre" is appropriately named from
a symbolic standpoint but an historical misnomer since a massacre
never occurred within the square.
Patrick Moore
Dear FRONTLINE,
The Gate of Heavenly Peace is probably the most beautiful
documentary I have ever seen. It extraordinarily depicted the
courage, persistence, and heroism of the students, teachers,
scholars, and workers who partook in the historical event. The
incident is a stepping stone to a flourishing reformation in China
as the nation matures to democracy.
Jay Villanueva
Dear FRONTLINE,
The best film about "6.4" I have ever seen. The most objective
journalism I have ever encountered. We have been practicing
"finding 'truth' in between" from all of those one-side stories
(Chinese government, student leaders, western media, etc.). As a
outsider (a person who supported the democratic movement
wholeheartedly like millions ordinary Chinese at that time), I
think I know a better version of the movement. It has finally been
presented in this film-a story that I and many my fellow students
believe to be the "closest to truth" up to now. The in depth
analysis of chinese culture that the film-makers presented to
western viewers is also what we often want to tell but feel
hopeless to achieve.
p.s. A minor mistake in the "controversy" part of this page. It
states that "the government still denies anybody other than
soldiers were killed". The government admits that people other than
soldiers have been killed. It just simply treats the deads
differently. It never treats those non-soldiers who died in that
incident as human beings.
Jinyang Hong
Hong@smissman.hbc.ukans.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
After watching the documentary, I became increasingly intrigued and
interested by the "Tiananmen Square incident" especially by its
prominent leaders like Chai Ling and the themes and issues it
presents. Despite all the criticisms, I believe that the
documentary was very powerful, informative, and inspiring to many
young students like myself.
Mandy Cheung
Mc_C041919@prodigy.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
First, I apologize for this lengthy message. It's divided into two
parts.
Item #1) What a beautiful site this is! A great pleasure to look
at and easy to read. Full of interesting and educational
information. A perfect companion to the PBS broadcast. Please don't
take it away for awhile. My daughter is taking a course on China
politics at the Univ. of California at San Diego (UCSD). Your
program/the film were highly recommended. Since she is in the
middle of exams, she phoned home and asked me to record the program
so she could watch it when she comes home. When I show her PBS
ONLINE's site for the film I know she will explore it to the
fullest. I hope you will keep it available for awhile.
Item #2) I was sitting in my dentist's chair yesterday and as he
was doing some really awful and painful dental work on me he
suddenly began asking me if I had seen the PBS program "The Gate of
Heavenly Peace" the night before. As I tried to mumble my answer he
proceeded with his commentary about how much he enjoyed it and how
fascinating and interesting he found it. I don't know if he has
Internet access so I thought I'd pass his reaction on to you -
although I was a little distracted at the time. I will also be sure
to tell him about your PBS ONLINE presentation.
Thank you again for your outstanding PBS ONLINE site.
S.M.
Santa Ana, CA
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thank you for your critical documentation of Gate of Heavenly
Peace, As a chinese american, these images of heroism in the film
at an age of greed, corruption and tyranny will forever remembered
in our mind and heart. However, the radicalness of the student is
in part the very inexperience of the student. Please pay attention
that they are so young, yet so full of energy and hope. It is the
indecency of the government, using gun to kill and jail the best
the country can offer, that brought the darkness to a quart of
population on the earth.
One of the weakness of the film is lack of interviews, views of
the people in power at that time and the people who order or
participated in the massacre, asking them why and what they were
thinking, what shaped their policy at the time, and views 7 years
after the '89 movement.
Another weakness of the film is lack of perspective on the
consequence of the movement, such as economic liberalization and
increasing role of private owned business in china today, and
inherit freedom brought on by such liberalization.
Again, thanks for your good work.
Y.J.Q.
Huntington Beach , CA
Dear FRONTLINE,
I watched the program on the night of 6-5,96. I truly enjoyed the
film. This is my first time surfing this site. I think you have
done a wonderful job. This home page on The Gate of Heavenly Peace
is very informative ,and it is interestingly presented. Keep up the
remarkable job. I certainly will be back soon.
Vincent
Dear FRONTLINE,
Job well done!!!
Finally, someone is doing an objective review of the events. It
helped me to rethink about all that has happened. While no one
intends to blame Chai Ling or anyone else in student leadership for
the bloodshed, she and other radicals should rethink about what
they did and the consequences for their own good. Unfortunately, in
Charlie Rose show, Ms. Chai [Ling] was just too busy defending her
own position seven years ago. In fact, a lot of people in Chinese
community think those so-called "leaders" in 1989's movement are
worse than Communists. At least, Communists had a dream. No more
mass movement, please !!!
Regards,
Charlie Zha
charlie_zha@crd.lotus.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
Congratulations on another job well done. The documentary was much
more insightful than the sensationalist media, i.e. the so called
nightly news. It was in depth and factual. The human story was told
very well. I was at the time but just turned ten and the inhumane
and incredulous onslaught stunned me. Being Chinese, I could
understand the authoritarian dictatorship the communists enacts,
but to kill one's own people for political reasons is another
issue. Don't get me wrong, history is filled with these incidents,
but to actually see it and the bloodshed is another. I could not
believe that marshal law was declared and troops were sent in to
"pacify" the student protesters. Anyways, it was an amazing piece
of work and hopefully posterity will remember that day on June 4,
1989 when the evils of a fascist and dictatorship government gone
awry, when this film is shown to generations to come.
Though, several things I would like to point out about the
documentary is as follows:
Another biased and partisan view is presented. As with some
earlier episodes, "The Gate of Heavenly Peace" presents only views
that appeal to emotions and popular cultural icons. Only mainly the
students story of emotions and courage was told, not the political
machine nor the circumstances facing both sides of the problem. The
students were fighting for a great cause, that of justice and
freedom, but, their approach was illogical and irrational. Change
takes time, even the Mao movement took over a decade to accomplish.
The students at the beginning only wanted small reforms, but then
changed to "this is what we want, give us all or we'll die"
attitude. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. Even, in this country bills
introduced takes a long time before they become law, and even
longer before put into effect. The students wanted everything now,
or death. Is this logical? The students kneeling as if petitioning
to an emperor exemplifies that view in the film. Of course it's
emotional, but it does not get anywhere! Some in the government
were already conforming to the students view. Again, the film only
primarily showed viewpoints of emotional characteristics and that
which appeals to the mass, in this case the people who get
sentimental about death, etc.
Another thing is that there is lack of the psychological factors
that both sides manifested. It was interesting to hear the narrator
explain that Deng Xiao Ping was afraid of chaos. Maybe that had to
do with the outcome of events. And, the students were overwhelmed
by mass hysteria. The power of the masses transforms the
individual. Like the earlier revolutions, Tiananmen had that
element of mass hysteria. One of the student leaders even admitted
this. He was at first ready to go home, then the uproars of the
group changed his opinions immediately, because of he felt like "on
top of the world" through the mob hysteria. And, even to this day I
could not understand why both sides decided on what they decided.
The government's stupidity to open dialogue, and, the students'
"eagerness" to bloodshed in order to prove a point? Why do these
two sides decided this malicious course of action? What
psychological factors that could led to this? So, the psychological
factors-I think-needs to be explored further. The governments
resistance to an old tradition of petition and the students bravery
(or even foolishness?) needs to be further pursued.
Lastly, I don't not know whether or not the directors saw the
ironies and hypocrisies that government and students had. To some
extent they were even humorous. To see that the dictatorship
government forming in Chai Ling's advocates and supporters
resembling exactly the Chinese government just made me further
believe that the course of action should've been else. And the
irony that when AK-47's went off, most of the students (and some
leaders) just fled the scene makes me still wonder further. The
government have a long time been a hypocritical pretentious
bureaucracy. Mao's dream was the government as the people and for
the people, this no longer exists. Though the communists still
preach it! And the irony of the PLA, aftermath, and cover-up
instilled an air of disdain and distaste upon me.
In short, the factors of why are not explored, just the
irrational behaviours and emotional appeals are presented. It is my
whole-hearted belief that FRONTLINE represents quality and factual
report coverage, but to see again partisan views makes me
second-hand-doubt that image of FRONTLINE. However, Richard Gordon
and Carma Hinton did a wonderful job on the events that occurred
during the appalling two months time. It's another job well done
for FRONTLINE.
Yours truly,
Meng Wei
Dear FRONTLINE,
I am puzzled by one point made very clearly in the film. The
details of actual killing done by the PLA is rather limited. Hou
Dejian debunks the image of masses of students being gunned down in
the Square itself. The film repeatedly makes the point that there
was no wholesale carnage, at least nothing like what we have seen
in Burma, East Timor, Iraq and elsewhere.
Then, if this be the case, why is it referred to as a
"massacre?"
This is not to say that the official line is correct; rather,
the overstatements of the opposition were challenged in the
film.
The film seemed to steer clear of any hard facts about killings,
any accusations of numbers killed. The description of the emptying
of the Square in fact tends to confirm the Government story.
Was it a massacre? Or just a forceful imposition of martial
law?
C.S.
Dear FRONTLINE,
The only problem with Frontline's presentation of GATE OF HEAVENLY
PEACE was that it wasn't widely enough publicized. The film was as
provocative and thoughtful as I had heard. Since my first reaction
to the film was 'I want to know more' I am especially glad to see
the extensive Website for GATE of H.P. This 'cyberproduction' is
among the best educational cites I have seen.
I look forward to watching the film again, and to showing it to
my documentary film classes this coming year.
D.S.
Dear FRONTLINE,
I find it tragic that such a critical and opportune moment for over
a billion Chinese people to escape the bonds of oppression were
wrestled away by a 23 year old self-aggrandizing
"commander-in-chief". How could they let that happen? The tide that
swept away most of the world's communist regimes has ebbed and I'm
afraid China has missed the last junk for democracy any time soon.
While I marvel at the student's bravery I am equally amazed at
their lackluster negotiating performance. Failing to compromise on
any point, the small band of students in charge turned victory into
defeat.
Trip Belote
Dear FRONTLINE,
This interactive site seems a bit simplistic and silly... Instead
of having information about Mao and Deng Xiao Ping (c'mon -- we
KNOW who they are!), why don't you have more information about the
more active players in the Democracy Movement -- the students and
others who were there, who were interviewed in the film. Where are
they now? What did they have to go through after the crackdown?
This site is too simpleminded. It's like a toy, because it's on the
WEB!? I expected a little more.
Alex Vincent Shumway
senalex98@aol.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
I sincerely appreciate your program along with the effort of PBS in
being one of the very few media outlets to recognize the
anniversary of the massacre.
I was in the square the night of June 3, 1989. I am an American
and was working on a Chinese film at the time. I realize this was a
shortened version than the theatrical release and I am curious as
to what part of the film was cut for the FRONTLINE version. I felt
that the film was strangely unsympathetic toward the students -
showing infighting, coup attempts, confusion, etc. - and not enough
focus was placed on the true evil of 1989, the Chinese government.
Also, one of the most heartbreaking stories to come out of 1989, is
the continuing repression against the people of China. These past
seven years and what is happening in China as far as further loss
of human rights or the inability for the people of China to speak
their minds has not even been touched on by the Western media. The
only stories that we read in the Western press are that of
companies doing business in China, blackmarketing of software in
China, etc. What are the students doing now? Are they doomed to a
life of silence and misery? And is this also the future of the
youth of Hong Kong?
John Perry
Dear FRONTLINE,
In many ways Gate was more insightful on the events which
transpired on the square in 1989. However, it still suffered from
shortcomings seen in many Western views of modern Chinese culture.
When a film such as this is presented to a scholar of China, they
have the requisite background for filling in the cracks of missing
information. However, the average Western consumer of media has no
such basis for understanding.
Aside from any accusations of altering re-writing history (I
personally cannot know the entire truth, but have heard the range
of possibilities from eyewitnesses), the film has two main
shortcomings:
1) it failed to emphasize much of the economic factors behind
the mass discontent which occurred in 1989. The economy was in a
transition from overheated expansion to trying to reduce inflation.
People got stuck in the middle- high inflation but decreasing
spending.
2) current views of the Chinese on what happened, and what it
means. Partially from people's own views, partially from the
still-efficient PRC propaganda machine, Chinese have a new view of
democracy- that it is 'messy.' June 4 shows that. The Los Angeles
riots, Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, Freemen, Paris subway bombings,
Japanese poison gas attacks, all of these items are seen by the
Chinese populous of showing why democracy is one step from chaos.
The simple fact is that China spent half of this century in chaotic
turmoil, as is very pleased with present day stability. So pleased,
that people would be much more likely to pick a strong economy and
oppressive government, than to open up the possibility of chaos for
more political freedom. The current wave of nationalism in China
goes so far as to see Western support for the 1989 movement as a
foreign tool for fragmenting China, Westerners desperate to derail
a China which will inevitably become very strong.
While I believe the human rights record of Beijing is
disgusting, the Western media also completely ignore any progress
which is slowly being made. While much time is spent finding vocal
dissidents and locking them up, political reforms have begun on
small scales. Many small villages have begun electing their local
councils. Some people do enjoy string enough relationships with
Beijing to make quiet, non-public requests for human rights
improvements and release of political prisoners. Some of these
efforts have been successful.
Yes, many Chinese are ignorant of what is happening in the West.
But many Westerners are also guilty of not understanding what the
conditions of China are like. This growing rift of
mis-understanding may eventually grow to be an even larger evil
than the problems both sides are complaining about now.
S.M.
California
Dear FRONTLINE,
I just want to emphasize and elaborate on S.M.'s comment, "The
current wave of nationalism in China goes so far as to see Western
support for the 1989 movement as a foreign tool for fragmenting
China, Westerners desperate to derail a China which will inevitably
become very strong." I'm not sure that this is going "so far."
While the actions of the Communist Party in response to the
democracy movement were horrifying and demonstrated its desire for
Stalinist totalitarianism, I think that the American media depicted
the movement as a revolution rather than as a reform movement. Due
to McCarthyite Cold War politics which defines American political
and economic world perspectives to this day, few American
politicians or commentators are willing to acknowledge that a
socialist nation can be democratic. Thus, to most Americans, the
simple equation is democracy=capitalism and vice versa. On the
other hand, very few of the interviewed participants in the
democracy movement made this equation.
In American global politics, money is the bottom line. This is
why, despite the People's Republic's numerous human rights
violations, Presidents Bush and Clinton extended "Most Favored
Nation" status to China. I also wonder if this is why we hear so
little of the numerous democratically elected governments which the
CIA has assisted in overthrowing, merely because the interests of
the people of those nations are in conflict with the interests of
American corporations.
Walter Squire
wsquire@utkux.utk.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
I feel relieved after watch "Gate of Heavenly Peace". At last,
people who are interested in China and her affairs will have a more
objective view of the "June 4th Massacre" and the complexity of the
problems facing China. I also feel very sad that such a reasoned
and balanced description of the historic events can only come from
non-Chinese and it was fiercely attacked by both sides. However I
do believe most of the people, the ordinary Chinese students here
in America and in China, will find themselves agreeing with the
conclusions of this film. What's more important is that China's
future will depend on the effort of ordinary citizen than the
government and the radical "democratic fighters".
Thank you PBS for bring such objectivity and important to the
better understanding of "Chinese problem".
Wen Wu
wen@cerc.wvu.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
Too bad most Americans--taking in the angst-ridden antics of
Rosanne and NYPD Blue--were largely ignoring the harrowing,
real-life drama unfolding on what may well have been this
television season's finest program, "The Gate of Heavenly
Peace."
While it may be an embarrassing admission to reveal that I've
viewed thousands of hours of television and film, I'm not as
reluctant to state that viewing your moving and powerful program
last evening ranks among the most memorable TV viewing experiences
I ever had.
It's actually quite shocking to realize how little most people
in the West know about this monumental event of our century's
history when you additionally consider the sheer volume of recorded
footage that exists of it.
Just as moving as the image of the lone man and the tank was the
image of a scruffy old worker--with a desperate sadness, longing,
fear and defiance in his face--holding up a peace sign for the
cameras. It was images such as these that made me realize--as I
hadn't before--the quiet desperation of a billion people muzzled
and straightjacketed into mute conformity. Kudos go to the
filmmakers for not shying away from tackling the very messy
complexities of politics--particularly the divisive tactics of the
various dissident groups--and of the ambiguities of democracy in
general.
Our country's failure to support the dissidents and censure
China remains a shameful chapter in this story not covered in the
program. We seem more willing to use fighting words and strong
tactics when China pirates our software and movies than when
pro-democracy people are killed. Thank you, PBS and all the
journalists, and the filmmakers for fighting the good fight and
airing it for all (or at least some of us) to see.
K.R.
Dear FRONTLINE,
With much anticipation, I watched the film last night. The film
brings back so much emotion in me that I don't even know how to
describe it, whether I like it or it depresses me more. I am proud
of the fact that what happened in 1989 will become a page in modern
Chinese history some day, but some personalities involved in the
event, in retrospect, make me wonder whether people educated in an
authoritarian system could ever be qualified to lead a democratic
movement. It looks from the film that they were more concerned
about power, personal image, and their position in history than the
future of China, despite their rhetoric to the contrary. On the
other hand, given what I know about these guys after they fled
China, I am not surprised....Thanks for making this important
look-back. I am sure the lesson of June 3-4, 1989 will be studied
and restudied by later generations.
J.Q.L.
Franklin, MA
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thank you for an extremely insightful documentary. This truly
supports the theory that our media presents such lopsided and
ignorant views of the world around us. Ask me back in 1989 about
what these students and workers were protesting about and I would
have simply said "Freedom." I now know better.
Fernando Vinzons
Dear FRONTLINE,
Congratulations! "The Gate of Heavenly Peace" is a masterpiece
painstakingly produced by two fine producers that provides an
in-depth account and analysis of what exactly happened.
One thing the documentary did not present but which has been
well-known, is the fact that many of the student leaders were the
children of low-level Communist party officials. They could not
compete with the children of the likes of Deng Xiao Ping for
privileges, and they did not want to study hard to become
intellectuals. They chose a short-cut by becoming demagogues for an
issue of importance in the West. True, that many of their demands
reflected popular will; true also that many of the students were
naive and idealistic. But people like Chai Ling and Li Lu were
clearly opportunists and they only cared about their own image,
seven years after the incident. They continue to use the tactics
their communist mentors had taught them, to silence their critics
in the U.S. Chai Ling's personal attacks on Carma Hinton only
demonstrates how disqualified she was to lead that movement. The
same low quality is common among the ex-student leaders.
The film has promoted a theme that I find most suitable to
China: that there needs to be a serious discussion about HOW
exactly to move China away from the failed communism. It is too bad
that this was not mentioned in 1989, and now the prevailing mood in
China favors a free market combined with nationalism that may not
include democracy any time soon. And this maybe the right path for
China.
H.C.
New Jersey
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thank you very much for showing "The Gate of Heavenly Peace". The
program puts some sense to the sensationalistic and shallow
reporting that took place at that time by western media.
One area I felt that the program could have probed more deeply
was the role that western media played. It appeared to me at the
time that the media fanned the flames of dissent in order to cover
the story. At the time I recall feeling that the student were being
inadvertently manipulated. Who could make any right decisions about
what to do with thousands of people screaming at you and the media
putting you on satellite TV?
More seriously though, the students, through their lack of
wisdom and organization missed several of the best chances to
effect their desired changes in their government. As a result of
their actions they've set back reform in Chinese government by
years since all the high level pro-reform leaders were dismissed.
That is a sad, sad loss to reform.
A question for people to ask themselves when evaluating the
actions of the Chinese government is: "Could they have done
anything different in the last two weeks of the demonstrations?"
Could the *really* have? I don't think so.
Colin Looi
clooi@ichips.intel.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
What a spectacular piece of information! PBS has done it again. You
presented a monumental point in the history of China with the
content and fairness necessary for such an event. It is clear (and
has always been, to me) that China will face a crisis when Deng
Chou Ping (spelling in error) passes away. I am confident that the
square will be once again used to mourn the passing of a Chinese
leader and to show the world that the student Democracy movement is
not dead. Pieces like this remind Americans that we must respect
and honor our country for the freedoms it grants us.
Armena Andranian
Dear FRONTLINE,
I have been teaching about China for twenty years and have visited
the PRC four times. I have purchased the film for use in my high
school classes. I have more than twenty four hours of footage from
the events of 1989 but feel that the treatment presented in Gate of
Heavenly Peace is an outstanding way to present this material to
high school students. I will also develop interactive assignments
for my students. Are there any suggestions as to how to use this
interactive source with students?
Maureen Tracy
Dear FRONTLINE,
The ease and freedom in which I post this note should be the same
for all of mankind. Viewing the film reinforced how precious our
"taken for granted" rights really are. May the "Gate" open for
mainland Chinese.
Mr.Dave Kuck
kuck@mail.tcbi.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
This film turned what was merely a notable CNN event at the time
into the astounding history that it was. Thank you for the
understanding.
I was especially taken by the description of the climate leading
to the uprising that was given by one of the speakers: even with
the children in a family working, never enough money, and the
guarantee of a life-long job gone. I thought he was talking about
America.
Sincerely,
Kenneth P. Ruppel
75247.2303@compuserve.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
This film gave a very fair reporting of this tragic event. Even
though the camera resided with the students, there was no bias in
reporting the series of events leading to the confrontation.
The film should put to rest the huge blame on the Chinese
government and shift some to the students themselves. Especially
Chai Ling. Commander-and-Chief? What game is she playing? She spoke
to the students and every time she would mention her rank. This is
just a game to her. Some students allowed her to lead simply
because she screamed the loudest and spoke with confidence like a
child playing a war commander. Some democracy she is proposing, to
overthrow a government? And how come many students died while she
escaped to Hong Kong and then to the US.
It is people like her that put innocent lives in danger.
Yue Chu
yucst6@pitt.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
Thanks for bringing The Gate of Heavenly Peace to television. My
wife and I watched it last night and were deeply moved again by our
fellow students and people who fought for a better society in
China. I said "again" because both my wife and I were with them in
the square and the streets during those unforgettable days.
The reason that we really liked the film, however, is that it
did not merely provide an emotional recall of the event itself but
presented a serious reflection of the background and circumstance
under which the event took place. I think the film is a great
effort to bring the reasons for the event to the Western audience.
We all experienced the extensive news coverage of the event back in
1989. However the message brought by the news was only "the thing
happened in Beijing". On the contrary, this film brought a message
that stimulates more thinking of "why it happened in Beijing" and
"why it proceeded that way". In that, this film did a wonderful
contribution to the effort that brings understanding towards China,
Chinese people, and their courageous fight for democracy.
N.F.
Pittsburgh
Dear FRONTLINE,
The Gate of Heavenly Peace is objective, impartial, painstakingly
researched, and accurate, as seen by me, a participant and witness
during those tumultuous and tragic days, who came out the dawn of
June 4th with seven stitches on head and blood all over the shirt.
The documentary largely answered the question of what really
happened and how, which is no small accomplishment itself,
considering all the lies and disinformation shrouded the
tragedy.
To answer why it happened the way it did is a much more daunting
task. I got a clue from Lu Xun, who was quoted in the documentary.
He said, some sixty years ago, that even moving a table in China
will lead to bloodshed. The outcome of the student movement was
almost pre-destined from the very beginning. It didn't surprise me
at all when I heard Chai Ling saying she was "hoping for" bloodshed
to wake Chinese people up. The hypocrisy is that those who called
and hoped for bloodshed didn't shed one drop of blood and ran
faster than anybody else after the blood was shed, not by students,
the self-acclaimed "only children" of Tiananmen, but by the truly
courageous ordinary citizens of Beijing.
A movement led by young students had little chance of success,
because its leaders didn't know what they wanted to accomplish and
how. It eventually became a run-away train fueled by uncontrollable
raw emotions and crashed into the stonewall of a cold-hearted,
inflexible, and ruthless government. Nobody would let a ten-year
old drive a car. In the hindsight, it was regrettable that some
twenty-year old students, who lacked the knowledge of history,
vision of future, and wisdom of politics, were leading the movement
and rejected almost every friendly and more mature advice given to
them. However, their courage and conscience should be commended as
their mistakes be examined and criticized.
Y.Y.
Chapel Hill, NC
Dear FRONTLINE,
The action government took was necessary at that time. I watched
this program last night and I was in China in 1989. At that time I
was a student and I believe the motive of most of students were
good but some of them just did it for their personal achievement
for instance Chai Lin. What she said is really too much. We should
be fair to the fact. Every country has problems which is normal,
especially for the developing country which is on that stage of
reforming. At the beginning of the development of some developed
countries, they also have a lot of problems. We need democracy but
every political party the country depends on has its own way to
manage a country and they are not perfect-- Clinton administration
is not perfect either. Nothing is perfect. If the people can make
living and especially for such a huge country, that is satisfactory
enough at this stage. I do not think other parties can do better in
China now. The Chinese government needs to be developed but they
really tried.
Well, What Wang Dang said is fair and reasonable. He maybe
represents the new generation of the students but people like Chai
Lin should realize if what they said or did is fair or not. We all
love our country and we all hope it is getting well and developing.
Do whatever we need to do now, we will be proud of our country some
day with our effort.
J.H.N.
Dear FRONTLINE,
On the 4th of June this year I saw the documentary, "The Gate of
Heavenly Peace." My first introduction to the events that day in
1989 was like most Americans. I watched the tv as a high school
student, enraptured with intrigue and suspense. The media had
portrayed the event as a glossy, well-packaged news event of the
day. However, most Americans, as did I, let Tiananmen drift from
our collective consciousness. Our government treated it as if it
were nothing more than a student uprising gone bad, with little or
no attempt to pressure the Chinese govt. to deal with burgeoning
democratic ideals. Pres. Bush lost a great opportunity to stand up
for freedom and democracy.
After watching the documentary last night, I was so thoroughly
moved by the emotions and ideals of the students. Being a college
student myself, I only wish that I could have the same courage and
conviction people like Chai Ling stood by. I wish there were some
way to show my respect to the students that lost their lives and
those who lost their country. I hope in the future there will be
another opportunity to foster democratic reform in China, other
than funneling money into businesses that make Communist Party
leaders richer. And Americans, along with other democratic nations
should realize that they had a responsibility in 1989 that they
didn't live up to, so they'd better not let another opportunity
slip by.
Bradley J. Traynor
traynor@macalstr.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
I am a frequent viewer of PBS and the Frontline programs and enjoy
them a lot. On the 6/5/96 I watch the special on the Tiananmen
Square revolt "The Gate Of Heavenly Peace" and was astonished by
what I learned. Even though I watched specials of the incident I
never experienced one like this. After the program, I watched a
commentary ( I cannot remember the name, maybe was Dusty Road or
something like this ) which included the forerunner of the movement
and the former ambassador to China. During this show the movement
leader addressed the issues that in order to have a revolution we
need to shed our blood. With this comment, the former ambassador
always was putting her down. I think that that was totally wrong of
him to do that. In the United States it took more then words to for
this nation, it took sweat and blood. That is my opinion.
M.S.
Indio, CA
Dear FRONTLINE,
When U.S. political commentators reflect on the massacre at
Tiananmen square, they see in this scenario evidence that their
current hyper anti-statism is shared by compatriots around the
world. Jeff Jacoby, rightist commentator for the Boston Globe, just
yesterday symbolically joined hands with the martyrs who supposedly
are in solidarity with him and his ilk who dwell in perpetual
hatred of all things "statist." Indeed, Jacoby would have us
believe that these demonstrators would find their ideological peers
in the form of US Libertarians. What a joke.
Forgotten by Jacoby is the fact that the whole scenario was
sparked by the students honoring a Communist party leader, Hu
Yaobang, who the students felt was serving the true interest of
mass democracy. While Jacoby and the students may share a hatred of
the despots in power, if we only see in their dissent mirrored
reflections of our dissent, we lose the depth and creativity that
this protest holds. The opposition to Chinese rule need not hold in
it the seed for free-market capitalism and rampant individualism in
China. Indeed, the joy of the movement came in the hopes of
something entirely new. We lose that hope if we only see in their
dissent support for our system in the US. This is both faulty and
arrogant. The only reason "Communists" use that name is because the
name and the ideals are indeed so appealing to so many people. But
to think that what has transpired in China is communism is patently
false. The students seemed to be speaking out to this lie, trying
to bring truth to the slogans and ideals these charlatans have
co-opted for the purposes of treachery.
Matty Wegehaupt
Madison, WI
mwegehau@students.wisc.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
I was a student in China during the pro-democracy demonstrations of
1989 and had occasion to travel to Beijing on three occasions
during the movement. Unlike Dan Rather, I was also in China in
December 1988, when mobs of Chinese university students in Nanjing
swarmed and trashed dormitories inhabited by African students.
Anti-African demonstrations soon spread to other cities, including
Shanghai and Beijing, where students took to the streets shouting,
"Kill the Black Devils!" This student movement, occurring less than
four months before the beginning of the pro-democracy movement, was
largely tolerated by the Chinese government and ignored by the
international press.
I was, and still am, sympathetic to the students' desire for
freedom and political reform, and appalled by the government's
brutal response. Still, I could not help wondering as I stood in
the square how many of those student "heroes" had been screaming
for African blood just a few months earlier.
Sincerely,
R.K.
Elkhart, IN
Dear FRONTLINE,
The film could be debated for days whether it had any political
agenda to promote. However, I would like to express my appreciation
to the filmmakers for giving the American public the opportunity to
see real footage and images of the Pro-democracy rallies and
protests. Those videos can be interpreted in many ways, but they
still bring a powerful image of emotion and determination to the
viewers.
M.K.
Dear FRONTLINE,
I watched the film last night and was very moved; I was in Beijing
for most of the period of April 15 to June 4, 1989 and was a
frequent visitor to the Square to see friends and keep up to date
with the goings on. At the time, I was convinced that this was the
beginning of great changes in China, and expected that Soviet-style
Glasnost might arise from the tumult. Of course, these hopes were
dashed and little has happened since to revive my hopes for such
change.
One complaint I have about the film, and perhaps it is
misplaced, is that no mention is made of the fact that today's
Chinese students are not as interested in democracy as were those
students just 7 years ago. Instead, they are primarily concerned
with making money and becoming successful in business. Perhaps the
Communist Party saw the Tiananmen movement as little more than the
strivings of young people to make some noise, and have bought them
off (literally) with consumer goods and economic
liberalization.
I would be curious also to learn more about the lives today of
the main players in Tiananmen, such as Chai Ling and Wuer Kaixi;
also to learn of the status of Wang Dan, who I thought was back in
prison.
J.G.
jamesg@clark.net
Dear FRONTLINE,
I want to express my sincere thanks to PBS/Frontline for making and
airing the film. Seven years have passed. Some people begin to
forget what had happened that night. Some younger people simply
accept what they hear from the Chinese government (I found this
sadly when I talked it with some students who came to the US
recently). This is not because they are stupid to believe the
government, but because they are not given the information to think
differently. This is like poor people's starving. Not because they
don't have the ability to digest, but because they don't have food.
The communist government knows this too well so they would never
give up control over the press. Right now there is another danger
in China. The government is stirring up hatred toward the west.
They make use of such issues like Taiwan, Most Favored Nations
status, trade sanctions, etc. In China, I heard so often that
people telling me that the Americans don't want China to get rich.
Sadly, I feel another success by the government in manipulating the
nation's emotion. I did hear some people mention containing China.
It seems to me that this kind of thinking is helping the
dictators.
D.S.
Dear FRONTLINE,
A beautiful site. I hope it becomes as immortal as Tiananmen
itself.
Kevin Lacobie
klacobie@agoric.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
A fine documentary. The treatment of the students power struggle in
the square...factions, fragmentation; all too poignant. The
fragility of democracy while in its infancy.
Woody West
wwest@bcc.ctc.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
This is a very good way for all of us to memorize this event. Being
a Chinese college student back then, I feel that the material is
appropriate and objective. I often find that foreign people
sometimes misunderstand, or misinterpret the situation. However,
THE GATE OF HEAVENLY PEACE is better at understanding China and
chinese people. I believe that the TIANANMEN SQUARE EVENT has
certainly played an important role in promoting democracy in China.
Those with good intention who died for it did not die for nothing.
They are real heroes and people will always remember them. Those
who used students, hoped and led them to blood-shed, are criminals
just as some of the army commanders. Obviously, one such person is
the commander-in-chief, Chiao Lin. She wanted to see students being
killed; her goal is to see blood-shed, doing whatever she could.
This can be manifested in the interview by an U.S. reporter/writer
on May 28th. Many chinese see her as a psychopath. The democracy
movement is great, but she should also be responsible for the
blood.
Tim Zhang
Dear FRONTLINE,
We watched the film last night on PBS in Boston. We were deeply
moved by the film. Both myself and my wife are originally from
China and we had followed the entire movement in 1989. I'd like to
say "Thousand Thanks" to the people who made this film and I wish
one day this film can be broadcasted in China. People will never
forget what the government did and democracy will come to
China.
Many thanks again.
Y.W.
Dear FRONTLINE,
I enjoyed VERY much the documentary "The Gate of Heavenly Peace".
Been borned and raised in Beijing 'til age 15, I have experienced
much of the Communist way of life. Two of my sisters were in an
apartment during the Tianmen incident and were shot at by the
soldiers on the street. They were safe but the walls were covered
with bullet holes while they docked for cover. I have but the
greatest respect for ChaiLin. She was willing to die for such a
great cause, for the future of her country. I admire her. Although
how the students organized the latter part of the events are much
up for debate, their courage and dedication to freedom,
nevertheless, are worthy of high praise and support.
My father, an American, was very close to Mao, and was sent to
prison by the Chinese government for 16 years in solitary, all
because of some fake claim that he was an American spy. He believed
in Communism for the longest time and struggled working with the
Chinese government for over twenty years. My whole family suffered,
my relatives suffered, and our friends suffered. Watching your show
brought back a lot of memories. It enforced my love for that
country, for the people of China. No matter how hard life has been,
no matter how much suffering each individual has encountered, the
people always had so much love for their fellow comrades, so much
caring for their country's future, and are so willing to stand up,
against bullets if they had to, for such a thing that most parts of
the world take for granted, FREEDOM. Please keep up with the good
work. And if you have a chance to talk to the people who made the
documentary, please give them my support, my regard, and my sincere
compliment on a job well done.
S.H.R.
Santa Monica, CA
Dear FRONTLINE,
First, I want to thank you for bringing The Gate of Heavenly Peace
to TV. Living in a small midwest town, it is a luxury to see any
quality film, especially documentaries.
Now, about the film... The film-makers did provide a rather
extensive overview of the paths that led to the 1989 movement.
However, I lean to agree with Buruma's comments that this film is
partisan and promotes moderation and compromise. By no means am I
saying that radical actions and swift moves guarantee progress. But
has the current government shown any signs toward democratization
since the 1989 movement died down? Well, if Wei Jingsheng is not
allowed to express his political views, if Wang Dan has to go to
prison for speaking of opposition, if Hou Dejian had to be
"shipped" back to Taiwan for refusing to keep quiet; I suspect how
those moderations and compromises can bring the Chinese. Li Peng is
still in high power; the Chinese government was more than willing
to show its military muscle when popular elections took place in
Taiwan; and Deng Xiaoping has said more than twice that he will not
give up using military force to crack down Taiwan. How much faith
can we put in a government that drove tanks over its own people?
How can we trust a government that shot students and workers while
claiming to have built its country with young people and
proletariat? It actually made me shudder when I heard the
government's response (in Mandarin) to "the man against the tanks."
The film-makers' translation can hardly bring that chill to
life.
On the other hand, I wonder why Chai Ling "refused to be
interviewed" for the film. On Charlie Rose, she apparently has
plenty to say, and, did say quite a bit. I can understand why she
could not believe that the government would actually kill the
protesters. When a US visiting professor in Taiwan told me on the
eve of the tragedy that the protest would end in bloodshed, my
response was "no, it can't be." And about the Cunningham interview
where Chai Ling said she had expected bloodshed: honestly, Chinese
had used rhetorics like "self-sacrifice", "martyrize", and so on
quite liberally. Chinese culture has glorified those who sacrificed
for a higher cause. Therefore, some protesters might have actually
anticipated bloodshed although not expected to be killed. That
being said, I feel that Chai has backed down from her radical views
(although I don't agree with many of them). After all, people do
have the right to overthrow a tyrant, especially when this tyrant
did not come to power through popular elections.
One final note, what happened during the Chinese military
exercise this past March saddens me. When Taiwanese and many people
in the world condemned the act, many Chinese students here at
Purdue University argued that the Chinese government has every
right to do so in letters to school newspaper and in private
conversations. Yes, these are the ones who've seen the Tiananmen
tragedy and voiced support for democracy. Isn't the direction that
Taiwanese are headed exactly what those one million marching on the
streets, just seven years ago, were fighting and died for? In the
words of Ge Yang, how could they oppose what they were fighting
for?
S.H.
West Lafayette, IN
Dear FRONTLINE,
I left China when I was 7, the only memories I still have is of the
propaganda songs that they ingrained in my head so well. I grew up
in a tranquil South Pacific island and experience freedom even
Americans would envy. I was in Russia during and after the collapse
of the Soviet Union, and the things which I notice about its people
are the lack of individual though and initiative. When generations
are raised in the Communist system, there is very little knowledge
of what Democracy and Freedom is. I often wonder what would
happened if the students did toppled the Chinese government, would
it had ended up like present day Russia? In a constant state of
limbo and chaos? The film pointed out clearly what happens when one
is given power. If one has no idea how to use it to forge a
democracy, authoritarian rule starts all over again. The squabbling
among the students is part of human nature because power
corrupts.
For what ever the short comings of the students were, they had
the guts to stand in the face of death to gain their country's
freedom. I would probably have too if I grew up in China. For I was
just another apolitical, apathetic Chinese immigrant going about
his ways toiling long hours for the American Dream impervious to
the suffering on the other side of the globe. Until June 4,
1989.
It was the day after, during a demonstration in front of the UN,
that my mom told me of how my father was tortured for his whistle
blowing on his factory bosses. And till this day my Dad is still a
die hard communist. He does not blame the communist ideal for his
sufferings but just a few rotten apples that he worked with. Till
this day my father is still a die hard communist. A washed brain is
a dead brain.
With China's increase in commerce with the West, it will
ultimately gain freedom. With commerce comes information, and that
is the ultimate tool to start a real revolution. But the question
is when. China can not afford to have another generation grow up
not knowing what their parents did to rise up and try to gain a
democracy. If it comes too late, China may become another
Russia..... having freedom but do not know what to do with
it.
McIain@aol.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
As a victim myself of communist oppression in my native homeland,
Cuba, I extend a sincere and heartfelt message of solidarity to the
Chinese people longing to be free. May we all continue to work for
freedom and democracy in China, Cuba, and all the oppressed nations
of the world. WE WILL BE FREE.
Jose J. Valdes
valdesjj@aol.com
Dear FRONTLINE,
A moving and compelling piece that expands our understanding of the
student movement in 1989 - a clarion call to all who would support,
live under, or participate in a participatory democracy.
Dr. Doug Forbes
df08@academia.swt.edu
Dear FRONTLINE,
Your show this evening was exhilarating. The lightning speed by
which the student movement grew was a stark reminder for those in
our country who have forgotten that the rampant spread of
repression in America today can only be confronted by resolve,
focus and action.
S.O.
Ventura, CA
Dear FRONTLINE,
America is not the name of a nation, but the name of a dream, a
dream that lives in a person's heart where true freedom rings. To
be free is to have dreams and free thoughts, any other forms of
freedom are superficial without freedom within. Once freedom within
has been attained, no government, no soldier, no gun, missile, or
prison will ever contain, or be a cage. To be alive is to be free,
to fight for freedom is to know the great devotions and to
sacrifice for it, more noble and more noteworthy than all of
histories.
J.S.C.
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